pGrexy's List:
Master Tormentor Morghoul (+7)
*Titan Cannoneer (9)
*Titan Cannoneer (9)
*Titan Gladiator (8)
*Cyclops Shaman (5)
*Cyclops Brute (5)
*Cyclops Raider (5)
*Basilisk Krea (4)
6 Venator Rievers (5)
4 Paingiver Beast Handlers (2)
4 Paingiver Beast Handlers (2)
Swamp Gobber Bellows Crew (1)
Extoller Soulward (2)
I went ahead and left out the Bronzeback I took in a previous game, and added in the Rievers and Raider. Without the Bronzeback's melee power, this list will mainly try to take advantage of Morghoul's attrition game. With his Feat and Admonition, I should be able to survive a charge, and deal with the chargers on my turn. If I get the chance, I'll charge in first, although I'd probably rather be shooting most of the time. This list will have some very long range for Skorne. The Cannoneers come in at 16" with Far Strike, and they threaten 22" with Abuse.
Caleb's List:
Grim Angus (*6pts)
* Troll Axer (6pts)
* Troll Impaler (5pts)
* Dire Troll Mauler (9pts)
* Mulg the Ancient (12pts)
* Trollkin Runebearer (2pts)
Pyg Bushwackers (Leader and 9 Grunts) (8pts)
Trollkin Fennblades (Leader and 9 Grunts) (8pts)
* Trollkin Fennblade Officer & Drummer (2pts)
Stone Scribe Chronicler (2pts)
Troll Whelps (2pts)
* Troll Axer (6pts)
* Troll Impaler (5pts)
* Dire Troll Mauler (9pts)
* Mulg the Ancient (12pts)
* Trollkin Runebearer (2pts)
Pyg Bushwackers (Leader and 9 Grunts) (8pts)
Trollkin Fennblades (Leader and 9 Grunts) (8pts)
* Trollkin Fennblade Officer & Drummer (2pts)
Stone Scribe Chronicler (2pts)
Troll Whelps (2pts)
The only models I need to proxy in this list are Mulg and the Whelps; I'm keeping the whelps off the board, since they tend to get in the way, and I'll have them when and where I need them (hopefully). I'm getting better with the Fennblades each time I take them, and the office and a Chronicler are just givens considering the boosts they give and Grim's lack of def/arm buffs. I'm looking forward to trying out a full unit of Bushwackers; previously I've only used min units, and while they've performed reasonably well, having a full unit will hopefully make me pay attention to them a bit more and use them more tactically. For some reason, the thought of nuking a light beast with a range 14, RAT 14, POW 20 shot (or 2 RAT 7 POW 15 shots) fills me with a strange expectation of joy.
I'm also running with 2 melee-oriented Heavies, and I'm looking forward to using the Mauler as a second string heavy - throwing his animus on the Impaler or Axer (or hell, Mulg) for a turn or two and then jumping into the fray himself to clean up what's left. Between him, the Axer, Mulg, and Grim's feat, I'm pretty sure I've got a good shot at taking out or crippling at least 2 of pGrexy's heavies before he gets any licks in if I play it right.
pGrexy's Deployment:
We finally get to use 40k ruins! And avoid them all game. |
Caleb's Deployment:
Just prior to Caleb's 1st turn. |
pGrexy Turn 1:
A slow opening, but I need to stay in formation. |
I was in a pretty good position for now. The Swamp Gobbers and Venators were right where I wanted them, and the beasts were in a decent position to do some shooting next turn.
Caleb Turn 1:
My, what a convenient wall, forest, and field I have there... |
pGrexy Turn 2:
Now that is one big clump of smoke. Maybe I'll just hide here. |
At this point, I admit to having some uncharitable thoughts about the whole shooting experiment. A shooty list's second turn, and I'd done nothing to my opponent's army. I was pretty well set up to take his charge, though. Mulg might be able to get to one of my Cannoneers, but I might be able to Admonition away. I'd misplaced the Brute somewhat, and the Cannoneer didn't have a lot of space to maneuver. Otherwise, I was pretty safe behind the most excellent Cloud Cover.
Caleb Turn 2:
Picture taken after cloud marker removed. Darn Gobbers... |
The next big problem were all these annoying Fennblades in the way, so step 2 - pop No Quarter and charge them at everything in sight. Let me tell you, charging a dozen Fennblades 11" up the field -- literally over hill, field, wall, and dale -- is actually pretty damn fun. The Cannoneer tried to bounce out of the way with Admonition, but I made sure to place my first Fennblade in the most inconvenient place for it and ole Candice didn't get far. At this point the Fennblades apparently decided they'd made themselves useful enough this turn and proceeded to roll absolute horse-hooey on half their attacks and most of the damage, barely killing the last Venator and only roughing the Krea and Cannoneer up a little.
The Axer threw his animus on Mulg and moved up a little, preparing for a good charge next turn (see later: the big mistake). Mulg then rolled across the field like a ravenous spittle-dripping mountain-clad wrecking ball, his beady red-eyed glare fixed solely on the poor hapless Titan up ahead. He then proceeded to contract what I shall politely refer to as "Fennblade Syndrome" and roll more 1's and 2's on his attack and damage rolls for 6 freaking attacks than one might see during a 7-day Craps binge at a seedy Vegas casino. You... little... %&$#er....
Well, no use burning my dice about it or anything, I says to no one in particular (dice, if you're reading this... shape up). The Runebearer and Chronicler hop forward and do their thing (Harmonious Exaltation and Hero's Tragedy), and Grim sets his steely jaw and looks for a good spot to take a shot at that left-side Cannoneer. Turns out that (thanks to those wretched swamp gobbers and their smoke) the only good spot is where the freaking Axer is now standing. Ah crap. Well, Grim moves up anyway, pops his feat, takes a boosted shot at Miss Luckiest-dang-Titan-ever (he missed, but didn't kill a Fennblade... oh joy), puts Return Fire on himself and the Impaler, and promptly sits down and sulks on 4 fury in preparation for next turn's rendition of Flight of the Valkyries a la cannon fire. The Impaler moved up, used it's animus, and hit the right Cannoneer in a desperate attempt to remain relevant - some damage was done, but not enough to cripple an aspect. Expecting Morghoul's feat, the Mauler promptly runs backwards to keep himself open to transfers.
pGrexy Turn 3:
The Skorne ranged game ratchets up a couple of notches. |
First, the Krea used Paralytic Aura to drop the Def of some of the Fennblades jamming me, then she and the Cyclops Brute cleared a few of them out. The Brute put Safeguard on Morghoul, just to be safe. Morghoul advanced, checked range to Grimm for Torment (it's the same as his CTRL), and used his Feat before I got excited and forgot. If this didn't work out, I'd need its protection. Then Morghoul cast Torment. He hit, and I proceeded to lob everything at Grimm. My free beasts had pretty average luck hitting his good Def of 16 (the Raider and Shaman hit, but the Cannoneer missed), but bad luck on the damage rolls, and I had to take a free strike from my engaged Cannoneer, who miraculously survived with all her aspects intact. She mananged to hit Grimm directly, and finished the job.
Victory to the Skorne!
pGrexy's Thoughts:
I played a pretty solid tactical game, but I still felt like I was reacting to Caleb a lot. I definitely need to get used to Range 16 Cannoneers. I could have hung back a little more on my second turn and, had more options. I misplaced my Cyclops Brute a bit on Turn 2, and only luck saved my Cannoneer. I'm still not used to thinking about Admonition with such a packed formation. I'm actually thinking that the Brute might be a better front line defensive beast than a bodyguard against a lot of opponents with this list. He's very durable with the Shield and Set Defence, especially against most infantry. Reach could also threaten a wider area to prevent my opponent from getting to my ranged pieces. Next game, I think I'll lead with him, and see how that works. Morghoul didn't use Abuse a whole lot either this game or last game, and can usually just cast Safeguard on himself.
I corrected my mistakes of last game. I played closer together, and timed Morghoul's Feat better. I definitely made sure to keep all my beasts in a Paralytic Aura. I also used the Swamp Gobbers very well. They were a crucial element of my defense on Turn 2, and I really like them in this list. Activation order with their cloud doesn't matter too much with the Extoller handing out Eyeless Sight.
The Venators were an OK screen. I probably should be using 10-strong units or Bloodrunners if I need protection. I'll try them out again though, and keep them in Concealment more. They might see a little more action that way. I really like the Raider in this list. That extra range is a huge change in the list's shooting potential. I did miss the Bronzeback though. The list is definitely weaker at clearing infantry, and much less of a melee threat without him. Last game, I relied on his power and his animus, and I was much more aggressive. This game, I was more defensive, and played a more ranged/attrition game. I'm considering replacing the Gladiator with the Bronzeback, since I don't feel I need Rush much with this incarnation of the list. The Bronzeback would give me more anti-infantry options, and would provide a very hard-hitting melee threat. I really missed the Agonizer's Gnawing Pain this game. Diminish on its own is just not enough to feel secure. There isn't much room for an Agonizer though. Maybe I'll squeeze one in if I drop the Venators.
Caleb's Thoughts:
Ah crap, Torment. I hate that spell! All in all I think I played a very good game this time around, and would have been in a lot better shape if I hadn't moved that Axer forward into the only spot Grim had to see around that cloud. My opinion of Swamp Gobbers is going up significantly because of this game - in 2 out of the 3 turns, they were a significant problem for me. Despite a few minor placing errors, the full unit of Bushwackers is way more powerful than I'd originally thought, and could have really wrecked some of those light beasts if it weren't for those darn Gobbers. Combined with Grim and the Impaler, this list has a respectable ranged threat.
It was a bit different being more aggressive this time around - I tend to play Calandra very defensively, which is not something I think Grim or this list do well. Nothing wrong with that, as it kept pGrexy on his back foot for a good part of the game, and he came back to pull off that ranged assassination run really well. The utterly ridiculous amount of synergy and buff/debuff potential his list has is really quite amazing, and combined with the above-average ranged threat, that's something I'll have to look out for in the future.
Despite some crappy rolling, I think this list is nicely rounded and does a better job of dealing with Beasts than the Calandra list. The only real weakness I'll say it has is that it lacks good defensive options - by the end, there wasn't much I could do to prevent that assassination run other than load fury onto Grim and hope. I like having Mulg in this list, but I might drop him for an Earthborn after all - it's got the speed and abilities to be a better front-line beast, and it meshes really well with the Mauler and Grim's tricks. As to those last 2 points, I might drop the Runebearer and pick up a unit of Runeshapers: nothing says 'screw you, titans' better than earthquakes and POW 14 crit knockdown, plus they'd provide a good screening unit for Grim.
And Finally:
Pax thinks I should be working on my novel instead of writing battle reports. |
What does pMorghoul do for your list? I would think eHexeris actually supports a shooting game. Or is trying to make a ranged pMorghoul list the point? Also, if you want chaff to screen with how about slingers? That way you get a cheap max unit and still make some nominal shooting attacks.
ReplyDeleteSlingers *would* be better in this list. I'd have to drop the Swamp Goobers or find a point somewhere else, but max Slingers would have the bodies for an effective screen and a ranged attack that's actually good at clearing out infantry (when it hits).
ReplyDeletePlaying a ranged pMorghoul list was sort of the point.
Rather, I had this idea that I could make a regular pMorghoul beast heavy list into an interesting combined arms list by using 2 Cannoneers, a Gladiator and a Bronzeback, plus support beasts. It looked like I'd pack enough of a ranged game to be a threat while still slinging P+S 20 Titans into my opponent's lines from 11" away. Diminish is an ok Animus for an attrition game, and Morghoul's pretty good at that too.
Only on Friday morning I decided that my Bronzeback needed to be finished before I would play him again. So the ranged/melee beast list became a ranged attrition list.
eHexy would definitely support a ranged list like the one I ran in this game a lot better than Morghoul, and I may try the list out with him next time (some minor tweaks will get it there). His offensive spells are all pretty good, but Black Spot alone would solve my jamming problems.
I may do that (and focus on other casters) until Baxter is done.