Monday, January 7, 2013

4+Tough: State of the Lists

So, every now and again I'd like to just put out lists post: what lists we're using the most, how they're meant to work, what we want to do to improve or add to them. Hopefully this will turn into a relatively regular post (once ever 4-6 months or so), but here they are for now:

Caleb:

Trollbloods 35pts
Calandra Truthsayer, Oracle of the Glimmerwood (*5pts)
* Pyre Troll (5pts)
* Troll Impaler (5pts)
* Dire Troll Bomber (10pts)
Krielstone Bearer and 5 Stone Scribes (4pts)
* Krielstone Stone Scribe Elder (1pts)
Trollkin Fennblades (Leader and 9 Grunts) (8pts)
* Trollkin Fennblade Officer & Drummer (2pts)
Fell Caller Hero (3pts)
Lanyssa Ryssyll, Nyss Sorceress (2pts)

I've been running a lot of 35pts, and settled into a nice basic list for Calandra that I like. It's got the brick down pat, supports the Fennblades well, has a great ranged threat, and the beasts do melee pretty well when they need to. I've experimented with flipping out the Bomber for an Earthborn and that's worked pretty well, but it leaves the Impaler as a bit of an odd-man-out. The quick and easy solution is to drop Lanyssa and up the Impaler to an Axer and the Pyre to a Slag, which actually sounds like a pretty nice plan, all things considered....

Grim Angus (*6pts)
* Troll Impaler (5pts)
* Dire Troll Mauler (9pts)
* Earthborn Dire Troll (10pts)
Pyg Bushwackers (Leader and 5 Grunts) (5pts)
Trollkin Fennblades (Leader and 9 Grunts) (8pts)
* Trollkin Fennblade Officer & Drummer (2pts)
Troll Whelps (2pts)

My Grim list has seen a lot more transition, as I've had more trouble getting used to Grim's playstyle than I had with Calandra's. This list is more aggressive than the Calandra list, and sacrifices most of the support for a very 'beat them to the punch' approach. I'm not sure that Grim is all that great of a Warlock at 35pts - he seems much better suited to a 50pt game, if for no other reason than it gives me more things to take advantage of his feat. We'll see....


Captain Gunnbjorn (*5pts)
* Troll Impaler (5pts)
* Dire Troll Bomber (10pts)
* Mountain King (20pts)
Pyg Bushwackers (Leader and 5 Grunts) (5pts)

I have never played  this list -- but I really, really want to. Since picking up the Mountain King, I've been aching to play the big beastie, and it seemed like a good opportunity to break into Gunny as a warlock while I'm at it. It's a VERY low points list to include a 20pt model, I think Gunny is one who can pull it off. I'm thinking of ways to include the Mountain King in 50pt games with Calandra and Grim, but I'm going to need a lot more experience with him first.

Trollbloods 50pts

Calandra Truthsayer, Oracle of the Glimmerwood (*5pts)
* Troll Axer (6pts)
* Dire Troll Mauler (9pts)
* Earthborn Dire Troll (10pts)
* Trollkin Runebearer (2pts)
Krielstone Bearer and 5 Stone Scribes (4pts)
* Krielstone Stone Scribe Elder (1pts)
Pyg Bushwackers (Leader and 9 Grunts) (8pts)
Trollkin Fennblades (Leader and 9 Grunts) (8pts)
* Trollkin Fennblade Officer & Drummer (2pts)
Fell Caller Hero (3pts)
Stone Scribe Chronicler (2pts)

This is (tentatively) my first tournament list for Trollbloods, and a list I plan on playing as often as possible to gear up for it. I have yet to buy an Earthborn, and I'm still on the fence between the Stone Scribe Chronicler and Lanyssa Ryssyll for those last 2 points, so it's still very much a  tentative list -- however, it's got everything I like with Calandra in it, and seems like it'll play very well. I'm still all over the place on the 2nd 50pt tournament list -- more games with Gunny, eDoomy, and Grim will have to take place before I nail that one down.


pGrexy:

Skorne 35pts

My most concrete list at 35pts so far is pHexeris.  I feel like I've got it pretty much where I want it, and it's really made me appreciate what pHexy can do.  It's well balanced.  It can play a ranged game reasonably well with the Cannoneer and Hexeris chanelling spells, and it has good options against infantry and warjacks/beasts.  Once my Bronzeback Titan is finished, I'll try swapping him in for the Cannoneer, and seeing what happens.

Lord Tyrant Hexeris (*6pts)
*Titan Cannoneer (9pts)
*Titan Gladiator (8pts)
*Archidon (7pts)
*Aptimus Marketh (3pts)

Praetorian Swordsmen (Leader and 9 Grunts) (6pts)
*Praetorian Swordsmen Officer and Standard Bearer (2pts)
Paingiver Beast Handlers (Leader and 3 Grunts) (2pts)

Agonizer (2pts)
Extoller Soulward (2pts)

My 35pt pMakeda list is in a state of flux right now.  I'll post the list I've been using, but it doesn't fit together the way I want it to.  I might go back to a previous incarnation at 35pts where I sub a lot of the small units and solos out for min Cataphract Cetrati.  I liked the former list a lot, and I'm really feeling what the Cetrati added when I had them.  I may also swap the Cannoneer out for a Bronzeback, since the Bronzeback gives me more power against high armor, which can be a concern for pMakeda.  Basically, I'm just going to play around.  PMakeda is great with most of Skorne models.

Archdomina Makeda (*5pts)
*Titan Cannoneer (9pts)
*Titan Gladiator (8pts)
*Aptimus Marketh (3pts)

Praetorian Swordsmen (Leader and 9 Grunts) (6pts)
*Praetorian Swordsmen Officer and Standard Bearer (2pts)
Tyrant Commander and Standard Bearer (3pts)
Paingiver Beast Handlers (Leader and 3 Grunts) (2pts)
Swamp Gobber Bellows Crew (Leader and 1 Grunt) (1pt)

Hakaar the Destroyer (4pts)
Extoller Soulward (2pts)

I have the core of my 35pt Xerxis down pretty well, but I'm still fudging around with the peripherals and support models.  Here's what I'm going with right now.  It has a solid brick that can shoot as it advances into melee.  I do really like shooting with Skorne, and Xerxis lets even the Venators hit dangerously hard with with Feat and Fury.  It's kind of weak against high-Def infantry spam, but solid against most other types of list, and fun to play.

Tyrant Xerxis (*5pts)
*Titan Cannoneer (9pts)
*Basilisk Krea (4pts)

Cataphract Cetrati (Leader and 5 Grunts) (11pts)
Venator Reivers (Leader and 5 Grunts) (5pts)
*Venator Reivers Officer and Standard Bearer (2pts)
Paingiver Beast Handlers (Leader and 3 Grunts) (2pts)

Ancestral Guardian (3pts)
Extoller Soulward (2pts)
Agonizer (2pts)

I've done a lot of pMorghoul with some shooting and no infantry recently.  When I get back into 35pt games with him (that is, when my Bronzeback is fit to play - hopefully by next Friday), I'll probably run the following.  It'll be the first time with this particular list, although I did run a similar list a few times in 2011 with good results.  Anyway, it seems quite strong, and I'm feeling pretty good about it.  We'll see sometime next week.

Master Tormentor Morghoul (*7pts)
*Bronzeback Titan (10pts)
*Titan Gladiator (8pts)
*Archidon (7pts)
*Cyclops Brute (5pts)

Paingiver Bloodrunners (Leader and 5 Grunts) (5pts)
Paingiver Beast Handlers (Leader and 3 Grunts) (2pts)
Swamp Gobber Bellows Crew (Leader and 1 Grunt) (1pt)

Agonizer (2pts)
Paingiver Bloodrunner Master Tormentor (2pts)

Epic Hexeris, like pHexeris, is just about set at 35pts.  This list is too much fun to change substantially.  I've played it with the Cannoneer instead of the Sentry and the Extoller Soulward instead of the Reiver UA.  I'd consider swapping the Savage for a Shaman for utility, but I like having a disposable missile if I need one.  In all versions, it's a tough, flexible list that can deal a lot of damage to just about any kind of target.  I just have to remember to protect Hexeris :P

Lord Arbitor Hexeris (*6pts)
*Bronzeback Titan (10pts)
*Titan Sentry (Bonded to Hexeris) (9pts)
*Titan Gladiator (8pts)
*Cyclops Savage (5pts)

Venator Reivers (Leader and 5 Grunts) (5pts)
*Venator Reivers Officer and Standard Bearer (2pts)
Paingiver Beast Handlers (Leader and 3 Grunts) (2pts)

2013 will be the year when I settle on 50pt versions of these lists - the majority of my games this year have been at 35pts.  It's also going to be the year I plunge into Retribution.  I posted my 1st ever Retribution list here, but I don't have any experience with it yet so it doesn't get to be a State of the Lists list until next time around.  Next time, I expect to have something to say about Ossyan, Kaelyssa, and Mordikaar.

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